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How NOT to create a character - my pet peeves
15 Feb 2025 17:47 #4098
by Sir Lee
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OK, I have been quiet for a long time and I haven't really kept up with Whateley, but this is as good a forum as any to discuss this.
I was thinking about the age of certain people -- whether they are pre-boomers, boomers or gen X -- and I remembered an old character from pre-Crisis DC, namely a villain from Infinity Inc. There was this group named Helix, formed by artificially mutated children. One of them had her growth arrested at early childhood but had the power of creating explosions. Her codename? Baby Boom. Yeah, really. Shame on you, Roy Thomas.
So... that's one thing you shouldn't do. Don't think of a cutesy codename taken from an existing thing and then create a character tailor-made for that codename. I don't have a problem with Boom-Boom of the New Mutants, because that is not a convoluted derivation -- it derives solely from her powers. Tabitha is not even *that* buxom. But Baby Boom is clearly a case in which the character creation began from the codename.
Also, don't go overboard with aptronyms. I mean, Victor Von Doom, really, Stan Lee? Roy G. Bivolo (Rainbow Raider), Cary Bates? Edward Nigma? (Although I might give that a pass, in some versions he wasn't born with that name) Otto Octavius? Victor Fries? Stephen Strange? Auric Goldfinger? Pussy Galore? (I'm giving Vandal Savage a pass, because he *chose* that name)
I was thinking about the age of certain people -- whether they are pre-boomers, boomers or gen X -- and I remembered an old character from pre-Crisis DC, namely a villain from Infinity Inc. There was this group named Helix, formed by artificially mutated children. One of them had her growth arrested at early childhood but had the power of creating explosions. Her codename? Baby Boom. Yeah, really. Shame on you, Roy Thomas.
So... that's one thing you shouldn't do. Don't think of a cutesy codename taken from an existing thing and then create a character tailor-made for that codename. I don't have a problem with Boom-Boom of the New Mutants, because that is not a convoluted derivation -- it derives solely from her powers. Tabitha is not even *that* buxom. But Baby Boom is clearly a case in which the character creation began from the codename.
Also, don't go overboard with aptronyms. I mean, Victor Von Doom, really, Stan Lee? Roy G. Bivolo (Rainbow Raider), Cary Bates? Edward Nigma? (Although I might give that a pass, in some versions he wasn't born with that name) Otto Octavius? Victor Fries? Stephen Strange? Auric Goldfinger? Pussy Galore? (I'm giving Vandal Savage a pass, because he *chose* that name)
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18 Feb 2025 13:45 #4108
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"No Heroes" Part 7: After the rain link .
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We probably should ask Bek how much Tao Jones inspired Hazard. Nice costume if a little stereotypical... Mr. Bones was even more on the nose.
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19 Feb 2025 01:47 #4109
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My character Dastardly Daughter was pretty much designed around that name. I just liked the idea of a teen girl Dick Dastardly.
But I tried to make her unique by having her create that persona so people wouldn't suspect her of being a violent, dangerous devisor.
So it can work, I hope.
But I tried to make her unique by having her create that persona so people wouldn't suspect her of being a violent, dangerous devisor.
So it can work, I hope.
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18 Mar 2025 06:22 #4172
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No, Mister Lee I expect you to... uh, well, it's iconic for a reason, right? Funny you bring up Goldfinger. Ian Fleming had a neighbor, Ernő Goldfinger, who he actively despised. Turns out the real Goldfinger was a Hungarian born architect who has some notoriety for his modernist creations that Fleming disliked for being built by tearing down older, Victorian buildings Ian liked. He made the villain as a jab against him and Ernő sued him over it. So, like most good characters, there's a better story behind the name.
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Auric Goldfinger?
No, Mister Lee I expect you to... uh, well, it's iconic for a reason, right? Funny you bring up Goldfinger. Ian Fleming had a neighbor, Ernő Goldfinger, who he actively despised. Turns out the real Goldfinger was a Hungarian born architect who has some notoriety for his modernist creations that Fleming disliked for being built by tearing down older, Victorian buildings Ian liked. He made the villain as a jab against him and Ernő sued him over it. So, like most good characters, there's a better story behind the name.
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19 Mar 2025 01:32 #4173
by Sir Lee
Replied by Sir Lee on topic How NOT to create a character - my pet peeves
Yeah, but he didn't need to rub it on by having "Auric" as a first name.
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19 Mar 2025 03:15 #4174
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Oh, you will really hate Bricky McBrickerton when I introduce her.
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19 Mar 2025 22:03 #4175
by DanZilla
Replied by DanZilla on topic How NOT to create a character - my pet peeves
I don't believe you have a character named Bricky McBrickerton.
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25 Mar 2025 03:03 #4185
by Morpheus
Replied by Morpheus on topic How NOT to create a character - my pet peeves
What about that bully in my new story, Jack Hass
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26 Mar 2025 08:08 #4188
by Court
If she didn't before, she will now.
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I don't believe you have a character named Bricky McBrickerton.
If she didn't before, she will now.
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30 Mar 2025 08:18 #4192
by Rosalie Redd
THIS.
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I don't believe you have a character named Bricky McBrickerton.
If she didn't before, she will now.
THIS.
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30 Mar 2025 20:27 #4193
by cprime
Replied by cprime on topic How NOT to create a character - my pet peeves
Plot twist - Bricky is a glass cannon and quite squishable. Perhaps she has a PK field that amplifies forces, rather than dampening them. Bumping her funny bone? That's going to leave a bruise. A slap on the shoulder? She's lucky if she doesn't have a broken clavicle.
Probably not a PK-7 (she'd probably be dead), but if she was rated PK-4 or so, she'd probably be Hawthorne material.
Probably not a PK-7 (she'd probably be dead), but if she was rated PK-4 or so, she'd probably be Hawthorne material.
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